Jang Gyeong-tae “Even a vicious criminal has the right to be defended”… Lee Young “I feel sorry for Yoon Seok-yeol and Kim Seong-tae”

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■ Broadcast: Lee Jae-ik’s current affairs commando (FM 103.5 MHz 12:05 ~ 14:00)

■ Host: SBS PD Lee Jae-ik

■ Corner: Friday tea ceremony

■ Broadcast Date: November 26, 2021 (Fri)

■ Cast: Jang Kyung-tae, Democratic Party lawmaker, Lee Young, People’s Power lawmaker

Jang Kyung-tae / Member of the Democratic Party of Korea

“Yoon Seok-yeol, to the power of the people, “I say three-go-cho-ryeo, but three-go-passing”

(Lee Jae-myung’s nephew defense) “Even if you are a vicious criminal, you have the right to a lawyer’s defense.

Only then can the sentence be accurately measured and the appropriate punishment can be obtained.

Rather than turning away from my nephew, I had no choice but to argue.

Lee Young / People’s Power Rep.

(National Power First Election Meeting) “We gathered together with good intentions to see if we could serve as a bridge between Kim Jong-in and Yoon Seok-yeol, but it’s a very sensitive time, so let’s watch the trend for a while.”

(Jung Yong Kim) “It seems clear that this is a controversial part of the greeting…Personally, it’s a pity.”

▷ Moderator

Friday tea party. It’s been 3 years since I’ve been on a current affairs program, and it’s always a fight when both sides sing once. I don’t know how it will be today. The corner title is Dajeonghoe. Rep. Jang Kyung-tae of the Democratic Party of Korea is here. Hello.

▶Jang Kyung-tae

Hello. This is Jang Kyung-tae.

▷ Moderator

In this way, there is one member from the ruling party, another from the opposition party, and Rep. Lee Young from the People’s Power. Hello.

○Lee Young

Hello. This is Lee Young.

▷ Moderator

First, let’s hear from Rep. Jang Kyung-tae. He served as the head of the Innovation Committee, called the Innovation Organization. Regardless of your age, it may not be easy to take on a position as the head of such a committee.

▶Jang Kyung-tae

There are many executives from ordinary members, but it is true that there were not many lawmakers from ordinary members. However, I became a member of the National Assembly from a regular member of the National Assembly, and in the process of composing the election this time, I formed a wide one-team member of the committee, but it is wide, but it has to be lowered again. Demands for renewal and innovation have erupted, saying that only then can we get closer to the people. So, the predecessors are also in various phases of replacement with the predecessors, and the party also needs to innovate more. We will do our best to create a party in which ordinary members are the masters, so that we can work diligently in the process of innovation, under the command that we must complete all tasks together with the public’s eye level, political reform tasks, party innovation tasks, and public communication tasks.

▷ Moderator

I’ve heard of your posture and determination, but when you watch a movie, don’t you show some trailers while being polite? Are you talking about a trailer these days? There will be one or two things like this, the content of innovation.

▶Jang Kyung-tae

For example, in the by-election, we made the nomination despite our reasons for the nomination process. In fact, if I had not voted for all party members and if I had combined all party member votes and public opinion polls together, I think we would have been able to reflect what kind of public sentiments we would have with the people more than ever. So, party sentiment is also important, and of course party members vote with loyalty to our party in all party member voting.

▷ Moderator

All right. Rep. Lee Young is also very, obviously, it is a busy time for all lawmakers right now, but it’s an election. The first-time lawmakers gathered together and had an urgent meeting. Is there any talk you can introduce to the broadcast?

○Lee Young

We got together for a while yesterday. But usually, when parents fight, children fight over trivial things, and when they enter each room, their children come and go, and this is resolved again.

▷ Moderator

It could be.

○Lee Young

There are now 56 people in our first year, so more than half of them. That’s why it’s always a great responsibility that you create yourself whenever something happens. therefore,

▷ Moderator

Is it collective responsibility?

○Lee Young

Yes, it is. no one did it So we got together yesterday, and we gathered together with a good intention of what kind of bridge we can play between former Chairman Kim Jong-in and Candidate Yoon, but it is a very sensitive period and there are parts that can be interpreted politically, so let’s look at the trend first. We said let’s watch it, and we ate something delicious and parted.

▷ Moderator

what did you eat?

○Lee Young

Yes?

▷ Moderator

what did you eat?

○Lee Young

We ate our pound cake with cream or something like that.

▷ Moderator

Another thing that Rep. Lee Young is doing right now is the Digital Political Party Committee, which is well known as CEO Lee Jun-seok and is leading the Kraken program.

○Lee Young

party committee.

▷ Moderator

You’re in charge of it, how are you doing?

○Lee Young

Well back. The Digital Party Committee is doing well, and the Kraken is also doing well. Actually, I was a venturer who worked in the IT field for 20 years before coming to the National Assembly.

▷ Moderator

Yes, it is well known, so.

○Lee Young

But when I came to the National Assembly, there were a lot of things that were very unfamiliar and surprising, and frankly, there were a lot of disappointments. However, I am not consistently getting votes on my own, but one of the things I am doing is to innovate Korean politics a bit. And I think that it should be done through actions rather than words, and digitization is one of the main themes. In fact, you think that digitalization in the private sector is very difficult, but if there is a minimum system, the organization becomes very transparent. Information is also shared about what is going on. So when I became the chairman of the digital party, I put out an advertisement in the newspaper. All those who want to innovate Korean politics with technology are welcome to gather, and all those who want to work for the Republic of Korea beyond the power of the people are welcome to come. So 60 people came, and forty-eight of them were selected through interviews and document screening. So, what I made with them was actually Kraken. So, when I came to see, I have been talking about whether the election is illegal or not for over a year, and former Governor Kim Kyung-soo was eventually convicted, right? However, if you continue to clearly and technically uncover those things and prepare for them, you skip the process and fight every day for things that can reduce controversy. So I’m making a Kraken this time, and I’m trying to put an end to the draking part, and then the election is illegal or legal. I’m trying to see.

▷ Moderator

All right. Rep. Jang Kyung-tae!

▶Jang Kyung-tae

Yes.

▷ Moderator

Since I was talking about the election earlier, the by-election. During the Busan and Seoul by-elections, the truth of the promises made by the candidates did not catch my eye. However, what was a bit unusual was that Park Young-sun was a candidate at the time, with a block chain, a digital platform that any citizen who crosses the platform participates in, and a political one. , because he served as the minister before that. Now, such digitalization as Rep. Lee Young said, or any aspect and method that everyone can trust through some program, is there not such a thing in the Democratic Party?

▶Jang Kyung-tae

I think that the Kraken program is very well made, and since malicious comments and manipulation of comments should be eliminated in the future, I would rather send it to the National Election Commission and make it a program that all people can use together.

▷ Moderator

I’m going according to the title. As the title suggests, it is sweet.

▶Jang Kyung-tae

However, there are former lawmaker Min Kyung-wook who claim that last year’s general election was a fraudulent election, or Hwang Kyo-ahn, who claims that the current presidential election was illegal and that it was a fraudulent election. Seems to.

▷ Moderator

Rep. Lee Young doesn’t seem to feel a sense of belonging with them.

○Lee Young

First, I will focus on political innovation with digital and regime change with data.

▷ Moderator

Draw a line, good.

▶Jang Kyung-tae

Candidate Hwang Kyo-ahn certainly does not seem to be.

▷ Moderator

Now let’s talk about the current issue again. I can’t not talk. Candidate Seok-Yeol Yoon announced the appointments of the senior general manager of the election yesterday. Wait. Let’s hear from the other side. Rep. Jang Kyung-tae, would you give your general opinion?

▶Jang Kyung-tae

That’s it. So-called candidate Yoon Seok-yeol said to get in the car, and CEO Kim Jong-in asked for a car key. For example, Lee Jun-seok passed in the process of joining the party, Hong Jun-pyo passed in the process of forming the squadron, and Kim Jong-in passed while appointing a position related to the previous captain. For example, before composing this election committee, the meeting between candidates immediately after the primary election and discussing various initiatives of the predecessor team to create a team and then to come out, the predecessors have to come out. After the CEO’s name came up, he would have wanted to change the government next time, but from the perspective of CEO Kim Jong-in. But suddenly, while creating the three-kim era, I did 1/N. Share it with Kim Byung-jun and Kim Han-gil, the power. Then, from the perspective of CEO Kim Jong-in, he must have felt that he was being passed. So in the case of yesterday as well, the yangban were often talking about something like this. So, in the end, from the perspective of CEO Kim Jong-in, a stellar moment could come, but from the point of view of candidate Yoon Seok-yeol, it is not a big deal.

▷ Moderator

To summarize now, Candidate Yoon kept saying that the argument with CEO Kim Jong-in was passing, but he was ignoring it. What do you think of it?

○Lee Young

I don’t see it that far, and I’ve also met Candidate Yoon Seok-yeol several times, but he was a prosecutor, served as the prosecutor general, and actually became a presidential candidate.

▷ Moderator

Eyes, tone of voice, things like that.

○Lee Young

Yes, that’s why I came here because the people believed in the truth and wanted to support them. The calculations are not that complicated. On the contrary, if we speculate on the reason for the dissonance, the truth is that there are many parts such as the calculation method or logic that Yoon Seok-yeol did something like this during his life, and the conflict between it and that in Yeouido. I do not support From me, I come here to watch a lot of news from the political world, and seeing so many different scenarios come out about things that happen that are more interpretive than dreams, after I’ve been here four years, a novel can be made out of this incredibly complex structure. I thought that there would be, and if something like this appeared on TV or newspaper, it should be sustainable, but there are many cases in which that fact is overturned again within a few hours.

▷ Moderator

The important thing is that people don’t believe it too much. I guess so.

○Lee Young

No, that’s why I think it’s not such a complicated logic, but rather that they’re arguing with each other. In fact, more important than that, it’s a part that can actually be buried if the discourse of how to run the state in a big way is clear. However, personally, the part about the methodology we are going together right now is a bit longer than I thought, so I am getting tired like this, but there are concerns about how tired the people will be.

▷ Moderator

Wait. It could be an offensive remark, but it could be a question, and if you listen to what you are saying, it sounds like candidate Yoon Seok-yeol still lacks political power.

○Lee Young

No, I think politics and style are different. With the beliefs, knowledge, and experiences I have lived outside, I can fully contribute to the people’s justice activities. You can contribute, but the tone used here and the weight of saying it is important are very different. Then, if I am asked which option, will I be 100% correct or will I find a balance point? So, over the past year, I actually thought a lot about whether I would be able to adapt, but I did not express it. For the first year of this year, I have to find a balance point without giving up on this. It’s too biased to one side. Thinking like this, I’m going softer on the contrary. Like that, there are a lot of differences between political power, political style, and political technique. , I think it’s our job to do our best to support the senior team and the policy committee so that no major mistakes or problems occur when we get to that part.

▷ Moderator

All right.

▶Jang Kyung-tae

I also want Candidate Seok-Yeol Yoon to get on stage sooner. I would like you to appear a lot in broadcast debates where you can test your political power, and no matter what kind of media you go to, you hear a lot of requests from the People’s Power lawmakers asking you to appear, please. In the forum I did in TV Chosun a while ago, he was really dazed, unable to say anything without a prompter for two minutes. The values ​​and philosophies of politicians, as well as visions and promises, should be able to give a speech for about two minutes, in fact, Rep. Lee Young. After all, when we are our level, we are not in the era of reading what our aides have written, now.

▷ Moderator

Now I’m not doing that either, as is the question.

▶Jang Kyung-tae

So, everyone talks about their thoughts, values, and philosophies fluently, and I would like to see our candidate Yoon Seok-yeol as well.

○Lee Young

However, if I were to give a little support for that part, I could hardly say anything when I was in the standing committee like last year. It’s not because I can’t speak, it’s not because I can’t understand the words or the timing and how to speak. And I was careful, as a beginner. But this year, I’m the same type, but just at the state audit, the seniors said, “My firepower has improved a lot.” You are talking like this. It’s not that my firepower has increased, I’m just getting used to it. If it were me, I would be a presidential candidate, but it was actually a very large place, and the prompter was originally supposed to open, and I received it all and went in. I think So I didn’t create a sophisticated situation, but I’m actually expecting those parts to get used to in a short time.

▷ Moderator

Now let’s talk a little bit about candidate Lee Jae-myung. Now, anyway, it is clearly visible that a lot has changed. As I see it, other people also seem to have changed something. First of all, there are people who say that the color of human hair has changed. Another thing that comes to mind when you think of candidate Lee Jae-myung is that he never admits his mistake and pushes forward. I thought he was too stubborn and scary when he said it, but one after another, he apologizes once a day. Of course, you don’t seem to be posting pictures of apples, but you are uploading them anyway, how do you view them? Did you say that it would be better to soften this change a little from the inside, or did you decide on your own?

▶Jang Kyung-tae

Anyway, there are parts that the Democrats lacked, and there are mistakes. No matter how mistaken it is, there are some things that we have to take responsibility for, and it is very important and difficult for politicians to reflect and apologize for this. It is very difficult to admit that you are wrong about the values ​​you have defended or the policies you have pursued, because apology requires you to admit your mistake again. Despite this, Candidate Jae-myung Lee is making his own self-reflection and apologies, and he continues to apologize every day, such as the Democratic Party has not lived up to expectations, wants to apologize for abusive language, and failed to take care of the pain of the people. For this part, don’t we apologize to the dog? That is why I hope that the people will look at it more warmly in terms of making an apology to the people.

▷ Moderator

I will also throw in one question to Rep. Lee Young earlier, because I asked a slightly aggressive question like whether candidate Yoon Seok-yeol would gain political power if he spoke in plain language. One of the apologies is the nephew that he defended when he was a lawyer. I remember everything about my nephew, and one of our relatives is about him. I expressed that I was involved in a felony related to dating violence, but there was no lawyer in my family, so I had no choice but to defend. The woman’s father, who stabbed to death and survived, fell off the fifth floor and became paralyzed for almost her entire life. Isn’t this just trying to cover up the problem a little too much? Wasn’t he just trying to get over this by being buried in another apple? First of all, the recognition is “How is that data violence?” There are many people who do. How do you see it?

▶Jang Kyung-tae

First of all, I would like to offer my condolences, apologies, and regrets to the victims and their families. However, even if you hate the crime, no matter what kind of heinous criminal you are in this world, you have the right to receive a defense from this lawyer. Only then can the sentence be accurately measured and punished properly. In this case, candidate Lee Jae-myung took place before he became mayor and was sentenced to life imprisonment, the highest sentence. Therefore, I hope you understand that I was explaining this situation a little bit in the sense that he talked about this by himself first, and that he had no choice but to argue rather than ignore his nephew.

▷ Moderator

All right. Let’s hear the explanation here. Rep. Lee Young sent a glance to me to do a little more.

○Lee Young

no.

▷ Moderator

Now, about Rep. Lee Young, a question from listeners has come in. Shall I read the praise first, shall I? (**Water Guard?) “I will remember Rep. Lee Young that there was someone who spoke so calmly and comfortably in the power of the people.”

○Lee Young

thank you.

▷ Moderator

Next, if you look at the names of the camps this time, one of them is Kim Seong-tae. The last thing we remember about a politician named Seongtae Kim is not that he worked hard when he joined KT for his child. In other words, he is a politician who has undermined certain values ​​of a fair society, and even though the trial is not over yet, the question is whether I should write the character Kim Seong-tae now.

○Lee Young

I’m not the appointee, so I don’t know for what purpose the decision was made, but in fact, the person taking the role in the presidential campaign may be a symbol of the candidate. It actually conveys the message, and it seems clear that it is a greeting that can be controversial. So, rather than expressing that I did well or not, I honestly have a personal disappointment.

▷ Moderator

Firepower has increased.

▶Jang Kyung-tae

So, me too

▷ Moderator

However, the Democrats have the feeling that the firepower is slightly going towards the party.

▶Jang Kyung-tae

I thought it was our party.

▷ Moderator

say sorry,

○Lee Young

No, but what is surprising to me is that there is a huge difference between the truth about a specific case that is known outside and the evaluation of a politician and the evaluation of that person when he or she enters the party. Nevertheless, politicians have to go according to the height and direction of the people’s gaze, and sometimes they have to get consent in the last process of persuasion.

▷ Moderator

I’ll ask right away. Like Rep. Lee Young, there are young spokespersons and political parties who have just started politics, and who have not yet worn badges, in other words, are there in them? Do you have a similar position with respect to these personnel represented by Rep. Kim Seong-tae?

○Lee Young

To conclude, Senator Kim Seong-tae is a senior who is highly recognized in terms of leadership among seniors and juniors. And in fact, in order to uncover the drew, he fought to the end with a single strike and achieved results by opening the truth to the public. I am telling you that there is a regret that it would not have been better if the public could count on such a part, but it is not important, and I am actually in agreement with the advice of our youth spokespersons, and I actually wrote a post on Facebook. It seems that I wrote and erased it one or two or three times. However, the direction I am heading is different. If the results I have now are all over, I completely agree with the youth spokespersons. And since Inseon was announced yesterday, we need a body to run, but we need hands and feet. So I want the parts corresponding to both wings to be released soon, and I always have a personal belief that political forces that lack the future and innovation cannot exercise political leadership to the people. So, since the hard forces of such seniors have gathered about how to lead the people’s strength in a strong way, I think that it should be quickly formed now about how to fly and what hope to give.

▷ Moderator

Even now, words like innovation, change, and speed are constantly coming out of our mouths, but with respect to Candidate Jae-myung Lee, on the contrary, there are certainly criticisms such as whether it is too fast, too arbitrary, or too arbitrary. Judging from what has come out now, he is famous for being Nakomsu. In the case of broadcaster Kim Yong-min, the bottom 80 people who were underactive in state affairs were also talked about like this, so lawmakers complained not to say nonsense, and then there were people who criticized basic income and then sent disciplinary action. What do you think of this criticism? ?

▶Jang Kyung-tae

This part is not decided by the candidate, and there are various disciplinary procedures in our party and in the party. After confirming certain facts through the duty audit, the Ethics Tribunal is composed of external members, and the Ethics Tribunal is usually composed of lawyers. First of all, when Kim Yong-min asked to reveal the bottom 80 people, I wonder if there was a lawmaker who heard this. Let’s be more nimble with our emergency call last Sunday. It is a matter decided by the National Assembly that we should move quickly, quickly and accurately, and if you post a promotional material in various legislators’ telbangs or group chat rooms like this, let’s do it as soon as possible. And there are not many cases where lawmakers directly manage social media. So, it can be seen that we have formed an organic network that proceeds quickly and directly through the assistant staff.

▷ Moderator

All right. I’ve been receiving a lot of texts cheering for Rep. Lee Young earlier. 9001 is always cheering for me and calling me my friend.

○Lee Young

Thank you very much.

▷ Moderator

(**Sungha Moon) would you like to read it yourself?

▶Jang Kyung-tae

“Rep. Jang Kyung-tae, I am a resident of Dongdaemun-gu. It feels strange to see a member of the National Assembly I selected join the commando team. Please do not lose your original mind and work hard.” As you said, the residents of Dongdaemun-gu are the owners, not the residents.

▷ Moderator

Hey, like this, again, I’m a politician like a servant.

▶Jang Kyung-tae

I do whatever I do.

○Lee Young

Looks like I’ll have to rub the lamp somehow.

▷ Moderator

I’ll see you two next week. Thank you.

▶Jang Kyung-tae, Lee Young

thank you.

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